Friday, May 22, 2009

Ray Comfort's Book

I received 2 books in the mail today, "You can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You can't Make Him Think," and "The Atheist Bible."

These were given free of charge by Ray Comfort's Living Waters Ministries and the "Evidence" book is autographed. I thank Ray for giving these out, and I will read it thoroughly...and then rip it apart here. :)


Kazim said...

I read that. I was waiting to see if Matt would read it so we could do a show, but it looks like he's not going to. Maybe I'll still discuss it, or maybe just wait for you to go ahead.

forkboy said...


What evidence?

Oh....the Bible. Yep. Must be true if it's written down.

Mikayla Starstuff said...

Eh, don't torture yourself too much reading that crap. If you feel yourself wanting to pull your hair out and jump off your roof--give it a rest for a few days :)

Anath said...

Haha, Ray Comfort... :P

We actually played his silly board game, and are now starting a project to debunk every single card. I'll drop a link by when we're done. :)

Reynold said...

What I find really unbelievably stupid is that Comfort doesn't consider Catholics to be xians!

thryll said...

If the picture of the horse in the water doesn't convince you of god's love, I don't know what will.

Kevin said...

I just stumbled across your blog and I have to say, I am impressed. That being said, I am from southern california and I have seen Ray preach many times around the area. He's, what I like to call, a fun fundie. I find him and his message laced with presumption and overt anti-atheist bias/bigotry to such a degree that I can't help but laugh. I hope to see your review of his written word soon.

stronger now said...

Hurry up!

stuart said...

Here is another book to consider.

I am an atheist and I have grown very disheartened by our self-defeatist culture. I was corresponding with one of the biggest atheist bloggers – the guy who guys by the name of ‘Sabio Lantz’ (he acknowledges that this is not his real name) over at

I told him that he should read this new book called the Real Messiah by Stephan Huller which I had been turned on to by Robert Price. I wanted to reach out to every atheist blogger to tell them that we can finally disprove the entire rationale of Christianity at one fell swoop.

He send me back a nasty email and then proceeds to slam the book in a manner which is worse than anything ever said about the Real Messiah by religious nutbars:

His negative review of this book is a depressing demonstration of the selfishness and self-defeatism that often pervades individuals on our side of the debate:

“My site and many others were spammed for the sale of this book. That alone is enough to stop me purchasing it until I hear amazing reviews from those I trust.”

The point is that I actually sent him links to positive reviews for
the book in Publishers Weekly:

And a list of New Testament scholars who support the book:

The aforementioned site was from a CHRISTIAN BLOG for God’s sake!!!

Look at the objectivity even with these people when compared to us.
Now I am not against someone having their own opinion about a book. ‘Sabio’ or whatever his fake name is can say whatever he wants about the Real Messiah IF HE READ THE BOOK. Yet it seems entirely self-defeatist to me for we atheists to deliberately sabotage a work whose specific intention is to destroy the Christian paradigm.

Unlike our enemies in the Religious Right we are rarely united, politically naïve and basically content to sit around engaging in intellectual masturbation while our rights are systematically stripped away from us.

My intention was not to spam anyone. I was simply trying to find a way for our side to go on the offense for once. We are always on the defensive while they (the religious folks) take shots at us.

I thought the Real Messiah was special because it is centered around a physical object which the author found in the Basilica di San Marco in Venice. It is universally understood to have been taken there by Italian sailors stole from the most ancient Church of St. Mark in Alexandria in the ninth century. Huller demonstrates that the throne goes back much further than that - i.e. all the way to the beginning of Christianity in Egypt.

In any event this throne is the real deal. It has an inscription written out in Hebrew letters and symbols which prove that Jesus was not the messiah of Christianity. Here are pictures of the throne:

We have to defeat the myth of Jesus Christ with another myth – a ‘rational myth’ to coin the language of Robert Price.

I am not asking you to ‘join my cause.’ I just want to defeat the oppressive ideas of Christianity with freedom and rational discourse. Is that really too much to ask?